[12] The temple inscriptions (in Ancient Greek and Nabataean Aramaic) state that it was constructed by a priest named dt of the "Thamd of Robath" for lh, apparently the patron deity of the tribe, with the Roman government's support. Thus, Nabataeans later reused the rocks and made them to graves. The Qurn saysand remember how he made you succeedd and lodged you in the land. These people incurred the wrath of God and were destroyed. Thamd, in ancient Arabia, tribe or group of tribes known to be extant from the 8th century bce to the 5th century ce. [5] This entire passage has been sent by Waqar. They are of Arab origin, but now of mixed blood mostly with Nilo-Saharans and Nubians. Whereas the people who did cravings in al-Hijr were Nabateans. The video (arabic): https://youtu.be/0XIPP6vsDmA. Al-ijr is now a vast plain, interspersed with hills into which what looks from the outside like houses or tombs have been carved. It must also be kept in mind that not all of the structures have been found as of yet. [4] This entire passage has been sent by Sharif. [27:49]. The Ghassanids, Lakhmids and Kindites were the last major migration of pre-Islamic Arabs out of Yemen to the north. Compared to modern civilizations of this time that we live in, these were still archaic and that is just sign of the times but compared to those who came after them in the lands, these destroyed civilizations were e definitely stronger. To Aad was sent the prophet Hud; to Thamud, Saleh, and together with another mysterious figure, Shoaib, they constitute the only three pre-Islamic prophets mentioned in the Quran that have an exclusive Arab provenance. (sorry for all the writting just answer the atharan bit and the 7 things I just wrote Down it doesnt matter about that long paragraph in the middle), Or bonus it just means they were better in building houses on past witch you cant see anymore like effects in 30:50, Any thoughts Bro sorry to keep bothering you with this, Aoa from there I will bring you down, The Story of The Aad And The Thamud Nation_ Qur'an __ | _ Dua for Relief Distress, Laziness, Debts : Suhih Muslim_ Book of General Behaviour_ Kitab al Suhih Muslim_ The Book of Destiny (KITAB-UL-QADR) Chapter___ Raising Index Finger in Tashahhud. Witch of these sound more like what the verse is meaning, 5. There is a place called Khyber at Pakistan/Afghanistan border but that is NOT the Khyber of Madina. Having similar names doesnt mean much They became two parties quarreling with each other. The coloring of (sedentary culture) established itself firmly. Do you think that there inside of there buildings had to of caved in So they used to carve and not they still carve. Nabateans replaced them and built on them/around them, 4. Abdullah ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, reported: . Assalamualaikum what do u think of the carbon dating and the presence of wells? As regarding to the Ahadith from Ibn Umar (as), they seem to be a interpretation of him itself, the prophet (as) says nothing about them. And Ad and Thamud-it must be clear to you from their dwelling places! The Thamd are infrequently mentioned in contemporary indigenous Arabian sources, although two Safaitic inscriptions carved some time between the first century BCE and the fourth century CE refer to "the year of the war between Gm and the tribe of Thamd [snt rb gm l md]". As also 'Ad and Thamud, and the Companions of the Rass, and many a generation between them. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. 13. Also two Saheeh reports are contradicting each other: One the one hand, they are resting at al Hijr, while on the other hand it is said that they didnt rest at all and kept riding away faster from Hijr. Allah does not want wrong for the servants. I feel there may be some misconception about how to view Quran. Among such nations were the 'Ad and the Thamud, the Amalekites and the Himyar after them, the Tubbas, and the other South Arabian rulers (Adhwa). 7. Did the Prophet try to execute a man without proof? They are related to the Banu Abs tribe.[33]. "[22] The stone constructions of Hegra are actually mostly from the Nabataean period, especially the first century CE. [27], This article is about the ancient Arabian tribe. Assalam alikum so is 89:9 present tense or past tense the altheana jabbu al sakrah bilwadi bit and you are saying that the thamud dwellings have gone destroyed after the prophets time, And Is madain al saleh wadi alQura or is wadi alqura some where else, And do you think there houses were destroyed before or after ibn kathir and could the land of thamud be petra ir yemon because there is a town called thamud in yemon, And does 27:52 mean there dwellings were destroyed or empty and could 89:9 mean there dwellings just of been caves in the prophets the outside gone fallen if you know what I mean and can. Aben Ezra thinks that caph, the note of similitude, is wanting; and that the sense is, thou thoughtest that Mount Seir could secure thee, as they that dwell in the clefts of a rock: whose habitation [is] high; upon high rocks and mountains, such as Mount Seir was, where Esau dwelt, and his posterity after, him. The people of Noah, when they denied the Messengers, We drowned them and made them a sign for people We have prepared for wrongdoers a painful punishment and Ad, Thamud, the companions of the well, and many generations between them. Much of the lineage provided before Ma'ad relies on biblical genealogy, so questions persist concerning the accuracy of this segment of Adnanite Arab genealogy. Routledge. As Dost aptly observes, thedescription [of Aad and Thamud] in the Qurn is the sum of historical memory and topographical observations modeled on the familiar configuration of perished peoples, (This is part of series on Arabia. We have to be open to the idea that a person living thousands of years ago will have a different concept of a place of dwelling than we, in the 21st century, do. (9:70) Have they not heard the accounts of those who came before them [77] - of the people of Noah and 'Ad and Thamud, and the people of Abraham and the dwellers of Madyan (Midian), and the cities that were overturned? (2/434), As for the related Hadith reports related to the incident during the Tabuk expedition they either do not mention Thamud by name or say. The facades vary in height and in the richness of their decorations. 15. Long before the Roman empire, before Alexanders conquests, even before the great Persian monarchs, there were the Assyrians lords of much of the Middle East, and archetypes of almost every empire that came after them. Also what time do you think noah ad and thamud came. [28] The Nabataeans were nomadic Arabs who moved into territory vacated by the Edomites Semites who settled the region centuries before them. http://saudi-archaeology.com/sites/madain-saleh/. Khurusani Arabs were mainly contingent from Nejdi tribes such as Banu Tamim. Ad and Thamud were two great civilizations destroyed by God due to their excessive wickedness. It is very conceivable that those individuals who established this society became the pillars of the nation and their descendents took advantage of that and maintained a stranglehold on the wealth of the nation. It is possible that Edomites and or Thamud did carve out structures in the region, Nabateans, who came later, were inspired at some point during their history by the structures and proceeded to make a few of their own. [13] Robath is likely the ancient name of modern al-Ruwfa. It sure is something to ponder over and come up with a hujja to explain. Good reply Adeel. Both tribes are of great reputed antiquity and, according to traditional Arab genealogists, are two of the four ba 'ida, or extinct tribes. Because were left with no records which can help in our archeological inquiry, even dating the structures becomes a difficult, and perhaps, an impossible task. From about the 2nd century BCE, a few inscriptions from Qaryat al-Faw reveal a dialect no longer considered proto-Arabic, but pre-classical Arabic. They mistreated the lower classes and worshiped others besides Allah. This implies that the carvings in Madain Saleh (which in fact date to the first century CE) are not from the Thamudians, but rather their successors many centuries later in the same area. How destroyed do you think the buildings were and does the hadith mean that there inside were not destroyed or could of they been destroyed as well or not. Akkadians Edomites, Lihyanites and Nabateans inherited this skill? The Aad werent about that. ** For what purpose is the tale of 'd and Thamd? Thirdly, the hadith you quoted isnt the only hadith on the topic. The Kingdom of Thamud was the first existing kingdom on the Arabian peninsula, according to Assyrian and Roman sources. Or just left relics in land 6. Now today, Thamudic ones have not remained and what is preserved are the Nabatean ruins, Assalam alikum I think what the people are trying to say is if I got this right is that the hadith says dont enter the homes houses of thamud so the verses makes it sound like the houses were still standing tall back then and some non muslims use this hadith to say the muhammad peace be upon him thought that these houses that were built by the thamud but that he got it wrong because these tombs were built by the nabtions not thamud and Ibn Kathir thought the same this is what I think they mean. [6], Thamd is also mentioned in Classical sources. Also sorry with wadi alQura where is that place because you mention in your article that is the place and it is different but where is it in saudia Arabia like how far from madain saleh and where is it near because they dont show it on the maps, 4. Those people rejected their prophets and did not follow the correct way and Allah did destroy them. The tribe refused to heed him, saying that Salih was merely a mortal, and demanded a sign from God. I would rather think that the Thamud were more like two or three hundred years after the Aad. Like the people of Ad, they erected huge buildings on the plains and hewed beautiful homes out of the hills. Q.28:58 is general: And how many a city have We destroyed that was insolent in its [way of] living, and those are their dwellings which have not been inhabited after them except briefly. Question:What is the correct explanation for the P --* _ . Or there fallen down relics were better than yours in the past but not better now. 62-63]. They were built not before the time of Musa ( ), but during the first century BC and the first century CE. The Quran and Sunnah do not identify any specific existing ruins as belonging to the first ancient tribe of Thamud, although some Muslim historians and popular folklore have done so. Sargon defeated these tribes, according to his Annals, and had them forcibly deported to Samaria. (29:38) If they turn away, then say, I warn you of a lightning-bolt like the lightning-bolt of Ad and of Thamud. The Middle verse in chapter (25) of the Noble Quran talks about Noah's people, Ad (the people of the prophet Hud) and Thamud (the people of the prophet Salih). [Quran11:6168(Abdel Haleem)], The Islamic exegetical tradition adds detail to the Quran's account. Most scholars interpret this as an earthquake. what they used to build and what they have built. (LogOut/ The means of God's destruction of Thamud include a thunderbolt, a storm, a shout, and an earthquake. They used to carve in the past and their present structure is not described in this Ayah. This structure is not only large enough to house several individuals, but contains benches which suggests that it served some social function, hence it can qualify to be called a place of dwelling. They are mentioned in the Quran as examples of civilizations that Allah had destroyed because of their sins and as signs of the fleeting nature of the worldly power. Archaeological Site of Al-Hijr (Madin Slih), Forty Hadith al-Nawawi in English and Arabic, Al-Aqidah al-Tahawiyyah in English and Arabic, Forty Hadith on Purification of the Heart. Chaldeans formed when actual tribe of thamud perished so you are not correct . They just wanted to catch him in some sort of inconsistency they could use to discredit him. God then destroyed the tribe, except for Salih and a few other righteous men. Are these tourist sites now identified at Madian Saleh the same as those we see discussed in the saheeh ahadith during the Tabuk expedition or is that a different location because these sites are identified as built by Nabataens and not Thamud and are considered much later than Thamud people (if we consider the finds to be absolutely authentic that these are Nabataens who built them. Indeed, we see in you foolishness and indeed, we think you are of the liars.Chapter 7, Verse 66, Have you come to us that we should worship Allah and leave what our fathers worshiped? In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. However, not all of them were destroyed; Salih and hisfollowers continued to live on. Nabateans built over them means in general sense; it does not mean that each and every building was replaced by the Nabateans. Even though we dont know for sure how this succession took place, I like to think that perhaps there were a few survivors from that windstorm that wiped them out. [26] The Arab descendants of the original Arabian settlers who continue to speak Arabic as a first language currently form the single largest population group in North Africa. Look, it doesnt matter if you warn us or dont warn us, were not going to listen to you. It would be unsurprising then, to find them in the archaeological/literary records related to ancient Arabia. During this time, the Nabateans built structures out of rock throughout their Kingdom, The buildings are not homes but are actually tombs, The inscriptions in al-Hijr are not those made by Thamud , At 26 instances in the Quran Thamud are mentioned by name and in none of those contexts they have been called People of al-Hijr, Where the carvings done by Thamud are mentioned the place of it is also mentioned, Quran 89:9 where the places is mentioned as al-Wad which means Wad lQura, The carvings made by the people of al-Hijr are mentioned in 15:82 and the people of al-Hijr is a title of the Nabateans. In other words either the evidence no longer exists (no problem) or Thamudic dwellings in North West Arabia are. Vol. And when they did that, Allahs wrath came on them. Dealing with faith-related doubts in Islam. It seems we gonna have some proper analysis on this case, and Allah (as) knows best! A Warning to the Disbelievers and a Reminder of the Story of `Ad and Thamud. Under the Umayyad Caliphate, Arabic became the official language in Egypt rather than Coptic or Greek. Its not an easy read, especially as most of the stories leave the reader perplexed in terms of their relevancy to ones personal life or attainment of anything didactic that enriches or nurtures a relationship with God. [4] Historian Israel Eph'al questions the plausibility of Sargon's account, as the briefness of Sargon's account seems to be at odds with the fact that such a campaign deep into Arabia would have been one of the longest wars in Assyrian history, and because no mention of plunder is provided. By not on the surface, I mean that they did not exist like a proper city or open to any passer by and were deep inside some unvisited territory. Are you telling us to change our religion from our fathers relgion? Let me explain who they are People Aad, and they are said to be called Aad by the name of their father, an extinct Arab tribe mentioned in the Qur'an . Of course there are lessons to be taken from the stories of these two nations. They are aws and athiri in origin with element of arphaxad According to Arab tradition, the Adnanites are called Arabised because it is believed that Ishmael Spoke Aramaic and Egyptian then learnt Arabic from a Qahtanite Yemeni woman that he married. Khawiya seems to mean destroyed/overturned but the term could possibly mean ruined too. Some people think petra was thamud do you think so jazzakkallah, But the main question for me is the first one number 1 the rest are just side questions but number 1 is the main one for me what I would like a detailed response the rest are more of yes or no qustions jazzakkallah sorry to keep bothering you, But I do agree with your article its just getting more information thats all jazzakkallah so I know how to answer this question jazzakkallah, This is part of qustion 4 do you think 27:52 is talking about there dwellings in the mountions or on the plains or both and does 27:52 mean there dwellings collapsed fallen because if yes 89:9 makes it sound like it is standing that there are more of the buildings showing then just partially but more showing of the buildings so how do we explain this jazzakkallah, Sorry for them being spaced out just put them together but 8. also if there buildings were very big there had to be more left of the buildings remains in the time of the prophet then just partially shouldnt there or not because if they were big there should of been more left or not do you think jazzakkallah how would we explain this jazzakkallah but like I said question 1 is the main one, 9. [5] In 1846, many Arab Rashaida migrated from Hejaz in present-day Saudi Arabia into what is now Eritrea and north-east Sudan after tribal warfare had broken out in their homeland. In my opinion this is an argument that Muslims have to tackle thoroughly due to its ease of presentation by non-Muslims and (hypothetical) explanatory power. 27:52 is in present tense. (2). What the hidden 85 percent will reveal remains to be seen. Id hate to be the one to rain on the holy Christian parade, but this inanity has to be responded to. The Thamud demanded and received a sign from Allah. [19], To the Thamd, We sent their brother, li. Traditionally, both the prophets Hud and Saleh and by implication, their respective communities Aad andThamud, are thought to have existed generations before Abraham, placing them well before 1300 BC (at the very least1). Or there fallen down relics are still better than you houses now 3. or there fallen down relics show they are/were better than you 4. These prefixes ignored in the alphabetical ordering: Al, Al-Bu, Albu, Banu. Arab genealogical tradition. The story of Miraj- Isra _ Suhih al Bukhari, Can you brush your teeth in Ramadan? . The word atharan or assar as loosely written in Urdu literally means effects or reactions or remnants left behind as an escape of a crime scene where clues or signs point to. Its also implausible that a people who would be at the helm of such epic architectural and engineering achievements would not even make mention of it, or at least keep a record of it. Also, 28:40 is referring to Pharaoh and the verse tells us to BEHOLD how Allah SWT dealt with him without us being present to see it. In fact, they are no recognised as Nabatean tombs, resembling the earlier more primitive ones among those to be seen at Petra in present day Jordan, not the late elaborately carved Greco-Roman facades. One may argue that they existed until 106 CE, i.e. His people came after Ad, and they were known as Thamud. I believe neither are in error. Allah mentions how there were actually nine families that pretty much ran everything in this society. According to Saudi-archeology website, an academic website aimed at archiving the rock images and providing archeological information on them, the structure may have been used for holding sacred feasts. We have a good perspective of the size of these supposed tombs in this picture, as the faade has been destroyed. The Thamud were scientists. This also makes it clear that the people were punished. Regardless, the thamud tribes structures remained for people to see according to Quran. For the town in Yemen, see, sfn error: no target: CITEREFEph'al1984 (, "Al-Hijr Archaeological Site (Madin Slih)", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thamud&oldid=1132970365, This page was last edited on 11 January 2023, at 16:00. Most of the monuments and inscriptions of the archaeological site of Al-Hijr date from the 1st century BCE and the 1st century CE. Many centuries elapse before we find Thamud again in the textual record, though their name crops up many times in (undated) inscriptions throughout North Arabia. In my research, I did discover that the tombs do contain pre-Nabatean inscriptions. - _ taf . In fact, we even know the scripts they used! They mainly settled in the Hauran region and spread to modern Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan. During the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), the Quraish would debate with him and ask him all sorts of questions. No doubt! The blast struck the evildoers and they lay dead in their homes, as though they had never lived and flourished there. [2] We do not know where they went, but they carried on the practice of stone carvings in the mountains. The Edomites were proud of their wealth and riches, which they had by robberies amassed together; and of their military skill and courage, and of their friends and allies; and especially of their fortresses and fastnesses, both natural and artificial; and therefore thought themselves secure, and that no enemy could come at them to hurt them, and this deceived them: thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock; Nevertheless, a number of interesting archaeological sites still exist in Arabia that have preserved the ruins of lost civilizations, such as the Archaeological Site of Al-Hijr (Madin Slih). Thamd, in ancient Arabia, tribe or group of tribes known to be extant from the 8th century bce to the 5th century ce. Having failed to save his people, Salih warned that they would be destroyed after three days. Obviously, the Thamud were much more advanced technologically than the Aad. Updates? [24] These tribes advanced in large numbers all the way to Morocco, contributing to a more extensive ethnic, genetic, cultural, and linguistic Arabization in the region. [25], Some Islamic sources claim that the Banu Thaqif tribe, an Arab tribe from Ta'if in the period of Muhammad, was descended from a survivor of the Thamud (sometimes a slave of Salih). We do not believe in the Bible the way it is today. 3. The account presented in Surah an-Naml also mentions nine evil people of Thamud who are immediately responsible for God's punishment of their people[Quran27:4851] in a narrative reminiscent of Jewish descriptions of the demise of Sodom. The Bible If you keep that mindset, youll go far, Inshallah. More than a century after Jesus, in the reign of the Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius (d. 180 AD), we find that a part of the Thamud tribe was enrolled in the Roman army. 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